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Below are a number of informative articles by Debbie Duay, copyright © 2009 - 2026.

Debbie Duay, Ph.D.

debduay@yahoo.com

 

 

Debbie's Process for Finding a Patriot for
Prospective Members

   
 

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My process for finding a Revolutionary War patriot with information from my Genealogy Worksheet is described below.  (If you are a DAR member interested in finding a patriot for a supplemental application, read this article.)

There are 5 important tools in this process.

Step One -  I almost always require that a prospective member complete a Genealogy Worksheet with as much information as she knows on her parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents on BOTH sides of her family.  The only time I do not ask a prospective member to complete a Genealogy Worksheet is when she has a close family member in the DAR (i.e., mother, daughter, sister, grandmother, aunt, niece, or great-aunt).  I never assume that the patriot the prospective member has identified will be the easiest patriot to prove.  Often, it is just the first patriot that she has found.   

Step Two - If a prospective member has listed her great-grandparents on the Genealogy Worksheet, I start with them.  I enter each great-grandparent couple into the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page. (NOTE:  Use the Advanced Search page rather than the Simple Search page as the Simple Search does not allow you to list a spouse.)  Unlike the DAR Ancestor Database which lists patriot ancestors only, the DAR Descendants Database is composed of all of the lineages starting with great-grandparents (Gen 4) through the patriot ancestor.  Please note that you MUST put the husband's name in the top fields and the wife's maiden name where it says spouse when using the DAR Descendants Advanced Search page.  Usually, I simply type the husband's last name only and the wife's maiden name only (no first names) to minimize problems with variations in spelling.  For a demonstration on how to use the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search, click here

Occasionally, I get a hit immediately in the DAR Descendants Database because the prospective member's great-grandparents are listed on another DAR application.  More often, I have to do more research. 

Step Three - Print out a 5-Generation Genealogy Chart for each of the prospective member's great-grandparents born in the United States.  If all of her great-grandparents were born in the United States, print out eight (8) 5-Generation Charts.  Print a chart on the front and back of a sheet of paper so that you use 4 sheets of paper rather than 8 sheets.  Write the name of each great-grandparent in the 1 box on each chart.  If you printed a chart on the front and back of each sheet of paper, write the husband's name in the 1 box on one side of the sheet and the wife's name in the 1 box on the other side of the sheet. 

Step Four - Next, I identify the parents of each of the prospective member's great-grandparents.  To do this, I go to the Public Member Trees Database on Ancestry.com.  I enter the great-grandparents to see if I can connect to anyone's research that will take me back one or more generations. 

Step Five - If I am successful and I connect to someone's research in the Public Member Trees Database, I come back to the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page and enter the husband and wife in each and every generation in the prospective member's lineage.  If you printed out a 5-Generation Chart for each great-grandparent (Gen 4), enter the information about their parents (Gen 5), grandparents (Gen 6), etc. on the 5-Generation Chart as you discover it.  NOTE:  Be extra careful using the Public Member Trees Database on Ancestry.com as there are MANY ERRORS.

Step Six - If I don't find anything in Ancestry's public trees, I go to the census on Ancestry.com.  I look for the great-grandparents in their parents' household.  Once I find the great-great-grandparents (Gen 5), I immediately go back to the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page to see if a previous application lists them.  If I do not get a match in the DAR database, I go back to the Public Member Trees Database and enter the great-great-grandparents.  Usually I am back far enough with great-great-grandparents to find another person's research that takes me back several more generations. 

In essence, my process for finding a Revolutionary War patriot is an iterative process between the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search and the Public Member Trees Database on Ancestry.com.

   

Debbie's Process for Finding a Patriot for
Supplemental Applications

   
 

Begin by filling out a 5-Generation Genealogy Chart with information on as many of your 8 great-grandparents (Generation 4) and 16 great-great grandparents (Generation 5) who were born in the United States as possible.  If you do not know all of your great-great grandparents, search the Public Member Trees Database on Ancestry.com. Perhaps another researcher has uploaded information on your lineage.

Next, enter each great-grandparent (Generation 4) couple into the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page. (NOTE:  I recommend using the Advanced Search page rather than the Simple Search page as the Simple Search does not allow you to list a spouse.)  The DAR Descendants Database is composed of all of the lineages appearing on DAR applications starting with great-grandparents (Generation 4) through the patriot ancestor.  Please note that you MUST put the husband's name in the top fields and the wife's maiden name where it says spouse when using the DAR Descendants Advanced Search page.  Usually, I simply type the husband's last name only and the wife's maiden name only (no first names) to minimize problems with variations in spelling.  For a demonstration on how to use the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search, click here

If you are a member who joined more than 18 months ago, your DAR number and Revolutionary War patriot will be included in the results for the great-grandparents listed on your application.

If you do not find any OTHER patriots after trying all 4 sets of your great-grandparents (Generation 4), the next step is to move to your great-great grandparents (Generation 5).  Search the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search using each of the 8 husband-wife sets in Generation 5 in your family tree.  NOTE:  It is likely that some of your great-great grandparents were NOT born in the United States.  However, if at least one of the people in a husband-wife set was born in the United States, search the DAR Descendants Database on that couple.

Once again your DAR number and patriot will be included in the results for the great-great grandparents listed on your application.  If no other patriots appear, the next step is to identify as many of your 32 great-great-great grandparents (Generation 6) born in the United States as possible.  Consider starting a new 5-Generation Genealogy Chart for each person in Generation 5 (i.e., 16 charts).  On each new chart, write the name and dates of one of your great-great grandparents born in the United States in Box 1.  List their parents (Generation 6) in Boxes 2 & 3.  If you do not know all of your great-great-great grandparents, search the Public Member Trees Database on Ancestry.com.

If no other patriots appear after searching on as many of the 16 husband-wife sets in Generation 6 as possible, try to identify as many of your great-great-great-great grandparents (Generation 7) as you can.  Search the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search with as many husband-wife couples in Generation 7 as possible.

Assuming that a match (other than the patriot already proven on your application) exists in the DAR Descendants Database, the likelihood of discovering a match increases the further back in your family tree that you go. This is because the number of ancestors that you share in common with others increases as you move further and further back in your lineage.

Generally, Revolutionary War patriot ancestors appear in Generations 7, 8, or 9.  If no other patriots appear after a search of the DAR Descendants Database using ancestors in Generation 7, it may be necessary to prove a completely new patriot or a new child of an established patriot in order to file a supplemental application.  Review the information on Finding a Revolutionary War Patriot in my free online tutorial.  If you are proving a new patriot, my sources of Revolutionary War service page may help you identify service for your ancestor.

   

A Simple Strategy for Proving a New Child or
a New Grandchild of A Patriot

   
 

Although it does not always work, there is a simple strategy for proving a new child or a new grandchild of an established patriot. It is worth trying early in the process as it may save you hours of research.

Proving a New Child of an Established Patriot

When you are in the patriot's profile in the DAR Ancestor Database, make note of the applications that prove a different child of the patriot for the FIRST TIME. If the DAR number for the first time a new child was proven is less than #400000, the application will probably be too old to be helpful. However, if the DAR number is greater than #400000, the application may list a source such as a will, deed, county/town history, or Bible record that also lists the child that you are trying to prove.

For example, patriot Joseph Witter (1762-1830) Ancestor #A127273 has 4 proven children. Daughter LUCY was first proven on #174729 Add Vol 142. Son JOSEPH was first proven on #252499. Son WILLIAM was first proven on #716288, and son Abraham was first proven on #848671.

The applications for daughter Lucy (#174729 Add 142) and son Joseph (#252499) are old. Thus, they probably do not list any documentation. However, the documentation that was used to link son William on #716288 and/or son Abraham on #848671 to their father patriot Joseph Witter may also mention the child you are trying to document.

Proving a New Child of an Established Child of a Patriot (i.e., New Grandchild of the Patriot)

To prove a new child of an established child of a patriot (i.e., new grandchild of the patriot), you will need to review the line of descent by clicking the little purple D for each application that is through the same child of the patriot as the lineage you are trying to prove.

Using the same example (patriot Joseph Witter A127273), let's pretend that our prospective member's lineage is through daughter LUCY and Lucy's son Tobias who has never been proven. After reviewing the line of descent for all 4 applications through Lucy, I find that Lucy's daughter Nancy Lucinda Smith is first proven on DAR #761011, and Lucy's daughter Hannah W. Smith is first proven on #174729 Add 142. Although #174729 Add 142 is probably too old to be helpful, the documentation used on #761011 to link Nancy Lucinda Smith to her parents Lucy Witter and Daniel Smith may also list Lucy's son Tobias.

   

Leaving a Legacy: Documenting the Descendants of 
Your Revolutionary War Patriot

   
 

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Most women have absolutely no idea that they are eligible to join the DAR.  Basically, the purpose of this project is to create a big neon sign that tells our distant cousins that they are eligible.  The project involves creating an Ancestry.com public tree that documents the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, gg-grandchildren etc. of your patriots as far down as possible to descendants who died as recently as 1960 - present.  A critical aspect of this project is marking each direct descendant with the appropriate designation by typing it in parentheses after the surname:

         (Child of DAR Patriot)
         (Grandchild of DAR Patriot)
         (Great-Grandchild of DAR Patriot)
         (GG-Grandchild of DAR Patriot)
         (GGG-Grandchild of DAR Patriot) etc.

Below are examples of two Ancestry public trees for Revolutionary War patriots documented in this manner.

        Rebecca Waldron Yates

        Benjamin Rice

 In order to participate in this project, you must:
       * have an Ancestry.com account
   
   * create an Ancestry.com PUBLIC tree
       * know how to attach documents to your tree

       * allow messages through Ancestry's messaging system

There are several reasons to participate.
   
   * It is lo
ts of fun.
   
   * You will hone your research skills.
       * You will discover distant cousins and help them join DAR.

       * This project will help us reach our goal of 250,000 members.
       * You will leave a legacy for future generations.

Step One: Start Your Tree with Your Direct Line to Your Patriot
Begin your Ancestry public tree with yourself, your parents, your grandparents, your great-grandparents etc. all the way back to your Revolutionary War patriot.  Ancestry.com has two tutorials for creating a family tree:

       Starting Your Tree, Lesson 1

       Building Your Tree, Lesson 2

For yourself, just list your first name and maiden name (no dates and places), and mark yourself as "Living."  If your parents are still living, do the same for them.  For all deceased Individuals, list birth, marriage, and death dates and places (if known) and attach documentation from Ancestry and FamilySearch.

Once you complete your direct lineage to your Revolutionary War patriot, mark each individual in the direct line by typing the appropriate designation in parentheses after the surname.  For example, (DAR Patriot), (Child of DAR Patriot), (Grandchild of DAR Patriot) etc.

Check Your Ancestry Settings and Update Your Profile
It is very important that your Ancestry tree for this project is a PUBLIC tree.  Check your Tree Settings to confirm that your tree is public. (NOTE:  If you already have a private tree that you want to keep private, start a different, new public tree for this project.)  Consider updating your profile so a distant cousin will feel comfortable contacting you.  If you don't feel comfortable adding a picture of yourself, add a picture of a flower or a kitten or something nonthreatening to encourage communication.

Step Two: Find the Patriot's Children
Once you have your direct line to your patriot on your tree, the next step is to start with your patriot and add all of his/her PROVABLE children.  First, check the DAR Ancestor Database, and add all the established children listed on your patriot's profile.  IMPORTANT NOTE:  You will be using the DAR Ancestor and DAR Descendants Databases a great deal for the early generations in the lineage. Remember that if a child or grandchild of the patriot is already approved on a previous DAR application, you do not have to worry about documenting the parent-child relationship. This is true even if the application is very old assuming there is nothing indicating an EL (Error in Lineage) in the DAR patriot's profile.  However, if the most recent application for a child or grandchild of the patriot is very old and does not list dates and/or places, try to document either a circa birth date and birth place (birth state only is fine) OR a death date and death/burial place for each person in each generation.

After adding all the established children listed in the patriot's profile to your tree, look for additional children of the patriot (i.e., children that are not listed in the DAR Ancestor Database).  To find all the children in each generation, search Ancestry's Public Member Trees by typing 1) a last name in the Last Name box, 2) a first name for the Father, and 3) a first name AND maiden name for the Mother.  Leave everything else blank.  If there are possible spelling issues, use the asterisk for a wild-card search.

If you are able to document a link between the patriot and additional children through records such as wills, deeds, church records, guardianships etc., add the other children to your tree and attach or link the documents to your tree.  IMPORTANT NOTE:  Only add children and grandchildren of the patriot to your tree that are EITHER 1) already proven on a previous DAR application, OR 2) have documentation that prove a parent-child relationship.

In order to keep from getting confused, it is best to use a systematic approach for adding people to your tree.  I suggest adding everyone in each generation before moving to the next generation.  In other words, add all the patriot's provable children.  After adding all the patriots provable children, add all the patriot's provable grandchildren.  After adding all the patriot's provable grandchildren, add all the patriot's provable great-grandchildren.  Also, when you are finished with working on your tree, be sure to write down where you left off so you know where to start the next time you work on it.

Step Three: Find the Patriot's Grandchildren
After
adding and documenting all the provable children of your patriot to your tree, the next step is to start working on all the provable grandchildren of your patriot.  Start with the patriot's oldest child, and document his/her proven children.  There are two ways to find all the proven children of a child of the patriot (i.e., patriot's proven grandchildren), and you should use both methods. 

1) If the patriot's child is an established child of the patriot, go to the DAR Ancestor Database and click the little purple D next to each application for that child in the patriot's profile.


2) Go to the DAR Descendants Database Advanced Search page and search on the patriot's child name and the name of his/her spouse.  This strategy is important because a patriot's grandchild may be linked to his/her parents on an application for a DIFFERENT patriot (i.e., not the patriot you are researching).  Use the wild-card search for spelling issues.

After identifying all the established grandchildren of the patriot, look for additional grandchildren that are not listed in the DAR databases.  Search Ancestry's Public Member Trees using the same strategy as before (i.e., last name, father's first name, mother's first name, and mother's maiden name). To document grandchildren that are not in the DAR databases, attach or link wills, deeds, vital records, county histories, church records, guardianships, etc. to your tree.

After adding all the provable children of the patriot's oldest child, next add all the provable children of the patriot's second child. After adding all the provable children of the patriot's second child, add all the provable children of the patriot's third child and so on. Again, only add children and grandchildren of the patriot to your tree that are EITHER 1) already proven on a previous DAR application, OR 2) have documentation that prove a parent-child relationship.

Step 4: Find the Patriot's Great-Grandchildren, GG-Grandchildren, GGG-Grandchildren, etc.
To find all the children of each couple in each generation, search Ancestry's Public Member Trees with the last name, father's first name, mother's first name, and mother's maiden name. Be sure to mark each direct descendant in each generation as (Child of DAR Patriot), (Grandchild of DAR Patriot), (Great-Grandchild of DAR Patriot), (GG-Grandchild of DAR Patriot) etc.

Once you reach the patriot's great-grandchildren, documenting parent-child relationships usually becomes much easier as the great-grandchildren are often in their parents' household in the 1850 census.  On the flip side, it starts to take a great deal more time to complete each generation because the number of people in your tree increases substantially.  You can save time if you avoid adding descendants to your tree that clearly never married or never had children.  For example, if a couple married in 1905 and they do not have any children in the 1910, 1920, and 1930 censuses, do not add them to your tree.

When you add people to your tree who were born after 1900, Ancestry will mark them as Living.  To add a death date, click Deceased.  Even if the person is probably deceased but you do not have an exact date of death, mark them as Deceased.

Attaching Documents
To increase the likelihood that a person will appear in the results of an Ancestry Public Member Tree database search, attach at least one Ancestry record to that person.  Thus, always try to attach at least one Ancestry.com record to both the husband and wife in each generation in your tree.  When attaching census records and marriage records listing both the husband and wife, attach the records to both of them at the same time.

Adding Links to Documents
There are many important documents and resources that are not found on Ancestry.com.  For example, Ohio death certificates from 1908-1953 are on FamilySearch and Missouri death certificates 1910-1969 are on Missouri Digital Heritage.  County and town histories contain biographies that can establish a parent-child relationship.  When you find helpful resources that are not Ancestry.com, add a link to them to your tree.

Tips for Finding Documents
1) When reviewing someone's Ancestry public tree that has lots of attached records, check the Gallery. If the owner of the tree has scanned and uploaded records, usually they will only appear in the Gallery.

2) When attaching records to an individual in your tree, choose View Record (not View Image).  Review the Suggested Records as some of these records may also pertain to the person.  Census records generally have the most Suggested Records.

3) To find missing children, enter parents' names only in a general search on FamilySearch as many birth, marriage, and death records listing parents have been indexed.  Leave the Deceased Ancestor's Name fields blank.

Uploading a Scanned Document
You may want to upload a document such as an obituary or death certificate.  You can also make that document appear on the person's main page as the profile photo so that it catches the attention of visitors to the page.  It is best to upload .jpg files rather .pdf files.

Adding Comments and Notes
You will want to add Comments and Notes to your tree.  Comments are open to the public to view.  Notes are only viewable by the owner of the tree. Consider adding this comment for your DAR Patriot in your tree, "He has been accepted by the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) as a Revolutionary War patriot. His descendants are eligible to join the DAR or SAR."

Finding Obituaries
Obituaries are extremely important in this project, especially for the recent generations.  Be sure to check Find-A-Grave memorials for people in your tree as obituaries are often posted there.  Many obituaries from about 2005 to the present are available online for free.  If the death was 2005 - present, search Google with the person's name and death year.  Add a city name to the search if needed.  In addition, there are links to many free newspapers and obituaries on this page.

If you find an obituary, add a link to the obituary to your tree (see Adding Links to Documents above).  Also copy and paste the text of the obituary into a Note so you have the text of the obituary if the link is no longer active in the future.  (See Adding Comments and Notes above.)  If you decide to paste the text of the obituary in a Comment (open to public view) rather than a Note (private), be aware that there is a character limit for Comments. You will probably need to edit the obituary. 

1st Cousins vs. 2nd Cousins vs. 2nd Cousins Once Removed
For every direct descendant of your patriot in your Ancestry tree, the person's profile will indicate how they are related to you.  It is easy to understand the difference between 1st cousins, 2nd cousins, 2nd cousins once removed etc. without charts or other aids.  For example, if your closest shared relatives with another individual are your Grandparents and they are also the Grandparents of the other individual, you are 1st cousins.  However, if your Grandparents are the Great-Grandparents of the other individual, you are 1st cousins once removed.  If your closest shared relatives are your Great-Grandparents and they are also the Great-Grandparents of the other individual, you are 2nd cousins.  However, if your Great-Grandparents are the Great-Great-Grandparents of the other individual, you are 2nd cousins once removed. 

    *  First cousins share Grandparents
    *  Second cousins share Great-Grandparents
    *  Third cousins share GG-Grandparents
    *  Fourth cousins share GGG-Grandparents
    *  Fifth cousins share GGGG-Grandparents
    *  Sixth cousins share GGGGG-Grandparents 

When two individuals are not on the same level (e.g., GG-Grandparents for one person are GGGG-Grandparents for another person), the person closest to the common ancestors (e.g., GG-Grandparents) determines the cousin number (e.g., 3rd cousins).  The number of generations that the two are separated determines the number of removes (e.g., 2 times removed). Thus, if the closest shared ancestors are the GG-Grandparents of someone in your tree but they are your GGGG-Grandparents, then you are 3rd cousins 2 times removed.

   

Tips on Documenting Lineages to Quebec Patriots

   
 

Click here to watch the video "Finding and Documenting Your French Canadian Revolutionary War Patriot."

Documenting Quebec lineages is often an easy endeavor.  Baptismal records and marriage records (first marriages only) list the parents’ names.  If the marriage is a second or third marriage, the marriage record will list the name of the previous spouse rather the parents.  It will be necessary to work back to the first marriage record for the parents’ names.  Burial records list the age of the deceased and the most recent spouse’s name.  Women kept their maiden names in the official records throughout their lives.  Search all records, including burial records, by their maiden name.  

Quebec Catholic church records are available on Ancestry and FamilySearch.  The Ancestry database for these records is Quebec, Canada, Vital & Church Records Drouin Collection, 1621-1968.  These records are indexed.  However, some of the records are nearly illegible.  If the image on Ancestry is difficult to read, you can browse the images on FamilySearch.  The FamilySearch database for these records is Canada, Quebec Catholic Parish Registers, 1621-1979.  You will need to know the date and place as these records are NOT indexed.

All baptisms, marriages, and burials from 1621 to 1861 in Quebec are indexed at the Programme De Recherche En Demographie Historique aka PRDH.  PRDH is a subscription site, but you can search the records for FREE.

Notarial records are where you will find marriage contracts, wills, deeds, etc.  Ancestry has an index to notarial records in the database Quebec, Canada, Notarial Records, 1637-1935.

There is a French Genealogical Word List on FamilySearch.  Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page for translations for numbers, months, and frequently used terms such as yesterday, day before yesterday, two days before, etc.  Find additional help with translating Quebec baptismal records, marriage records and burial records at these links to the Maple Stars and Stripes podcast. 

The Index to French Canadian Revolutionary War Patriots and Canadian Participants in the American Revolution - An Index are two resources that will help you find a French Canadian patriot.

DAR does NOT need translations of the records as they have genealogists that can read French.  However, you must underline in red all pertinent names, dates, and places.

When documenting places, keep in mind the following: 

* The correct abbreviation for Canada is CD.

* Quebec did not become a Province until 1774.  Places before 1774 should be listed as Parish or City name, CD (e.g., St Vallier, CD).

* From 1774 to 1790, places should be listed as Parish or City name, Quebec, CD (e.g., St Vallier, Quebec, CD).

* Quebec became Lower Canada in 1791.  From 1791 to 1840, places should be listed as Parish or City name, Lower Canada, CD (e.g., St Vallier, Lower Canada, CD).

* Lower Canada became Canada East in 1841.  From 1841 to 1866, places should be listed as Parish or City name, Canada East, CD (e.g., St Vallier, Canada East, CD).

* Canada East became Quebec in 1867.  From 1867 to the present, places should be listed as Parish or City name, Quebec, CD (e.g., St Vallier, Quebec, CD).

When citing Quebec Catholic records on page 3 of an application, I suggest citing them this way:

Gen 6:
Bapt, Bapt, Burial - Quebec Vital & Church Records Drouin Collection, 1621-1968, Ancestry
Burial, MR - Quebec Catholic Parish Registers, 1621-1979, FamilySearch

Gen 7:
Bapt, Bapt - Quebec Catholic Parish Registers, 1621-1979, FamilySearch
Burial, Burial, 1st MR, 2nd MR - Quebec Vital & Church Records Drouin Collection,1621-1968, Ancestry

   
 

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